The 9 millimeter Luger and 9 millimeter Parabellum ammunition are the same cartridge with different names. They are both the 9x19mm ammunition cartridge, commonly referred to as si...It has the safety hole, which according to the video supports the Police Unit theory. I've also been advised the magazine is Post WWII East German, and that the removed German proof marks may indicate a Russian capture during WWII. So the story so far is: 1916 made by DWM for the German Imperial Army, used during WWI.We would like pictures, but you describe a very nice Luger. The white seen in markings on some pistols is not original; it is added by collectors to show up the markings in picures, so the absence of white is perfectly OK. The full serial number (which may be followed by a letter) is on the front of the grip frame above the trigger guard.Last edited by RylanBrissette; 07-23-2009 at 10:26 PM. It looks like you have a very interesting Luger to shoot. This gun started life as a DWM Commercial Luger (c/N proof) and sometime--probably in the early 30s--it was reworked and proofed by the Heeres Zeugamt (weapons depot) at Spandau (SU25) for military use. Weight. 0.870 kg. Contributor: C. Peter Chen. The Parabellum Pistole 08 (P08) recoil-operated semi-automatic pistols were originally designed by Georg Luger of Loewe & Company in the United States in 1898, which attributed to their popular nick name "Luger". The firm fought hard to secure a military contract, but the heavy price tags of these ... Nov 8, 2006 · The following markings can be found on pistol-. Left Rear Frame By Safety: P.08. Top: 41 byf. Front of Frame: 8278 with 3E marked under that on curved part of frame. Left Front Frame by Barrel: 8278. Right Front Frame by Barrel: 655 655 with eagle marks above both numbers, eagles have 3 wings, a lone eagle is to the right of the second 655. Mar 19, 2017. 2. 34. 4K. Apr 2, 2024. by johnboy. 1 1 of 157 157. For beginning collectors to ask questions. If you want a pistol identified describe all its markings and their locations.For the beginning as well as the advanced collector. This is a chance for both the expert and the beginner to show off their collections. Jan C. Still is the owner of this Forum and the author of: Central Powers Pistols, Axis Pistols, Imperial Lugers, Weimar Lugers & Third Reich Lugers. The acquisition of these books is recommended but not ...luger 1917 double 1920 artilery start, a star burst above trigger guard with a shild inside, with 23 in it. Mark Evans.2464 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Jul 15, 2020. It is extremely rare for a 1918 Luger to have been marked by the unit to which it was issued. The mark on your Luger doesn't follow military directives either. My best guess is a post war Weimar era mark, possibly police or para-military but not likely military.When starting with Lugers, I recommend studying before buying guns. There are a huge number of variations, and many markings to become familiar with, as well as many markings. The more rare a Luger, the more opportunity for fraud and fakery.The Luger/Parabellum/P08 is most commonly found as a military pistol. Its physical characteristics usually include markings of the manufacturer and date of production; or its production under a known foreign military contract, usually with its own serial number range.5824 posts · Joined 2010. #6 · Sep 17, 2018. The "artillery" is a collectors term, as Klaus says it is a Lange Pistole 08, Long P 08. The L P 08 was also assigned to some Machine Gun Company crew and other "assault" type troopers; also to other troopers for which dealing with a rifle would be "cumbersome", which would also include some ...Jun 22, 2023 · M1906 Navy Luger (top) with stock, holster, and magazine pouch—finding a complete rig such as this is difficult and expensive. An unaltered Navy Luger (bottom) showing the safe marking in the lower position of the safety lever. (Courtesy of Rock Island Auction Service) June 22, 2023 By Leroy Thompson. I bought my first Luger pistol in 1968. Over the course of the discussion many interesting and imaginative uses and reasons for Luger witness marks were proposed. However, the "Markings Applied to Pistols 08, …They acquired the P08 Luger tooling from the Erfurt arsenal, and began small volume P08 production in 1925. They would product just under 12,000 pistols total between 1925 and 1934. The first 600 were made with 1925 chamber dates, and the first 100 or so in 1926 were also dated, but then the markings changed to a blank chamber for the rest of ...Luger markings. Jump to Latest Follow. 5K views 15 replies 7 participants last post by jdmt50 Dec 19, 2020. J. jdmt50 Discussion starter. 20 posts · Joined 2020. …The Luger is the direct descendent of Hugo Borchardt’s C-93 pistol, which was the first semi-automatic pistol to be commercially viable. Manufactured by Ludwig Lowe & Co. and its successor ...Help with 1917 Erfurt Markings. Attached is my 1917 Erfurt shooter, matching but refinished at some point, could someone tell me what the Unit Marking stand for? 7.R.11.7. It is interesting; in that the “11” appears both under the grips and on the back side of the trigger plate.Jan C Still RIP. 4384 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Feb 23, 2005. Balder. The two stamps to the left are a crown/E (or G?) and a crown/B German Army acceptance stamps and the stamp on the right is a German eagle test proof. The reported 1911 DWM serial range is 4089b-166f. The L is almost certainally an "e" or "c".Luger P08s produced before 1942 will have a safety catch on the left side of the gun, while guns produced after 1942 will have a safety catch on the right side of the gun. Besides, You can also look at the chamber date. Luger P08s were tested and stamped with the date of acceptance, this date is called the chamber date, and it is located on the ...This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both “Buenos Aries” and German markings.The Luger/Parabellum/P08 is most commonly found as a military pistol. Its physical characteristics usually include markings of the manufacturer and date of …5. Are there specific markings or codes to look for on Luger holsters? Yes, there are specific markings and codes on Luger holsters that can indicate the manufacturer, date of production, and other relevant details.Nov 8, 2006 · The following markings can be found on pistol-. Left Rear Frame By Safety: P.08. Top: 41 byf. Front of Frame: 8278 with 3E marked under that on curved part of frame. Left Front Frame by Barrel: 8278. Right Front Frame by Barrel: 655 655 with eagle marks above both numbers, eagles have 3 wings, a lone eagle is to the right of the second 655. The crown over N is a commercial German proof mark. The 8,82 is the exact bore diameter, the script thing on the toggle is "DWM" (the manufacturer), and the rest are serial numbers. Thanks so much! I should've clarified I knew some such as the DWM and serial markings.Kreighoff Waffenfabrik was a smallish arms company that wanted to get into major contracts with the rearming German military in the 1930s. They began by bidding on a contract for 10,000 Luger pistols for the Luftwaffe, and won. Krieghoff had previously worked as a subcontractor for the Simson company rebuilding Lugers under the Weimar …Help with 1917 Erfurt Markings. Attached is my 1917 Erfurt shooter, matching but refinished at some point, could someone tell me what the Unit Marking stand for? 7.R.11.7. It is interesting; in that the “11” appears both under the grips and on the back side of the trigger plate.Mar 12, 2018 ... The Luger has all matching numbers on the small parts with a matching numbered magazine. The stripping tool is stamped with a police acceptance ...9. Date - is mostly obvious - but a 1920 can be a government marking or a date, so showing us helps a lot 10. Here is an unusual spot for a unit marking, this one is police. Be advised that on rare occasions you will find one on the rear strap or the back of the toggle area. Also, Navy guns may be marked on the rear gripstrapMar 6, 2017 · The Luger is the direct descendent of Hugo Borchardt’s C-93 pistol, which was the first semi-automatic pistol to be commercially viable. Manufactured by Ludwig Lowe & Co. and its successor ... Are you a fan of Mark’s Work Warehouse and looking to shop online? You’re in luck. Mark’s Work Warehouse offers a convenient and user-friendly online shopping experience that allow...Luger P08s produced before 1942 will have a safety catch on the left side of the gun, while guns produced after 1942 will have a safety catch on the right side of the gun. Besides, You can also look at the chamber date. Luger P08s were tested and stamped with the date of acceptance, this date is called the chamber date, and it is located on the ...SN 5408. The Luger or Parabellum pistol is perhaps one of the most recognizable semi-automatics in history. A veteran of two world wars, these workhorses served on land, sea, and air, and were a prized war trophy for returning Doughboys and G.I.s. In addition to German Imperial and Nazi military models, Lugers were also manufactured for police ...The suffix letter r would place production in the 1927/1928 time period. The lack of barrel markings may mean that the barrel has been replaced. By 1921, DWM commercial production had reached 92000 at which point they stopped using 5 digit serial numbers and began using 4 digits and a suffix letter; thus an Alphabet commercial Luger.Oct 5, 2011 ... ... markings on the outside of the Luger, what it means to have "Matching numbers". At 3:20, How to load. You can fit 8 rounds in the magazine ...The suffix letter r would place production in the 1927/1928 time period. The lack of barrel markings may mean that the barrel has been replaced. By 1921, DWM commercial production had reached 92000 at which point they stopped using 5 digit serial numbers and began using 4 digits and a suffix letter; thus an Alphabet commercial Luger.Hi I obtained a 1914 Luger holster without the takedown tool. I would like to get one, but I do not know what markings would be proper for that year. Down the road I would like to find a 1914 pistol for it (DWM or ERFURT). ... Hi David, Better photos of the markings would help. The B.A.XII 14 mark stands for Bekleidungs-Abteilung #12, 1914, …Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture.According to Costanzo, page 74,(World of Luger Proof Marks) the so called Erfurt Eagle (test Proof) is found on the left breech block of 1915 to 1917 DWM Lugers and on the right barrel of 1916 to 1918 DWM Lugers. ... According to 1910 marking instructions the Luger power proof test eagle is to be a “heraldic eagle” (Gortz and Bryans, p. 111 ... Examine the area beneath the Luger barrel on the metal in front of the trigger guard. Most Lugers have a four-digit serial number stamped into the metal. World War One German Lugers feature a four-digit serial number with a letter after or below the number. Identify the serial number. Identify the last two digits of the serial number. This is a quote from The Luger Handbook, written by Aarron Davis. EDIT: There was also some 1923 DWM commercial versions with MADE IN GERMANY on them. This model was made for commercial sales both within and outside Germany.... Many experts believe the Dutch variation is actually a military contract model due to its serial …Your Luger saw action on the western front in Flanders during 1914 and until 30. March 1915. From that date it saw action on the eastern front until the end of the Great War. It was in Litauen, Kurland, Rumania and the Ukraine. It is interesting that the gunsmith of the regiment used the same dies for the unit stamps of all (5) Squadrons.Your Luger saw action on the western front in Flanders during 1914 and until 30. March 1915. From that date it saw action on the eastern front until the end of the Great War. It was in Litauen, Kurland, Rumania and the Ukraine. It is interesting that the gunsmith of the regiment used the same dies for the unit stamps of all (5) Squadrons.Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post. Re: Help to identify a 1940 Luger. Your Luger was made in 1940 by Mauser. The 42 on the middle toggle link is the wartime code for Mauser. The E/655 stamps are the army acceptance marks, and the E/Swastika on the receiver, barrel, and breech block is the firing proof. The magazine should have the full serial number ...Feb 20, 2013 · The change to hot salt blue was mid 1937. The WWII German Navy obtained their pistols through the Army. They have all the normal acceptance and proof marks of the Army P.08, but are identified by their Navy property mark on either the frontstrap or rear strap. The property mark is preceded by an O for Ostee (Baltic Sea) or N for Nordsee (North ... Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture.Your Luger saw action on the western front in Flanders during 1914 and until 30. March 1915. From that date it saw action on the eastern front until the end of the Great War. It was in Litauen, Kurland, Rumania and the Ukraine. It is interesting that the gunsmith of the regiment used the same dies for the unit stamps of all (5) Squadrons.Erfurt Luger Police/Unit Marking Help. K.H. Sep 13, 2023; 1 409 Sep 13, 2023. ... 1920 Reichswehr property stamp, Weimar Army/Navy/Police unit markings, indications of Weimar Rework Show Less . Join Community Grow Your Business. Forum Staff View All m1903a3 Super Moderator. Edward Tinker Administrator. … We would like pictures, but you describe a very nice Luger. The white seen in markings on some pistols is not original; it is added by collectors to show up the markings in picures, so the absence of white is perfectly OK. The full serial number (which may be followed by a letter) is on the front of the grip frame above the trigger guard. This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both “Buenos Aries” and German markings.It is a pistol made by Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken (DWM) during the First World War in 1916 and comes complete with military markings, matching numbers, and the original holster. This World War I vintage DWM Luger P-08 has matching numbers and the original holster. (Picture courtesy Cabela’s). Military markings on the back strap of ...Magazine identification, now with pictures. Hello all! Popping back in after a bit of an absence to see whats up. I am having some challenges in matching up my Lugers with my various magazines. I am not talking about a serialized magazine (have one though) that matches the pistol. I mean "this mag with these markings with a wooden bottom etc ...The Luger has all matching numbers including the magazine. The magazine is wood based, numbered to the gun. The magazine is clean. The barrel and the receive are marked with the full serial number and suffix. Additionally there is 8.83 reflected on the barrel which was the proof marking of land diameter of the barrel.2/1001 is the concealment code of Ernst Thalmann in Suhl Germany. There were two Thalmann sites in Suhl. 1/1001 and 2/1001 were the concealment codes. These are very high quality and usable magazines and make excellent magazines for shooter Lugers. The machined and welded body is the best of all the magazines produced for the Luger.prairiedogpat. 4027 posts · Joined 2011. #5 · Jun 5, 2015. Tool and mark do not look quite right to me, but then I have not seen all tools and marks. Maybe one of the experts will come along and set things straight. Pat. "Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." San Francisco, CA, May 13, 1903.A. argr1994 Discussion starter. 17 posts · Joined 2011. #1 · Apr 23, 2011. This is my first time posting. I have a luger magazine marked as follows: SN# 2985 letter i under it. It also has on the side the number 122 an eagle with 37 under it. the bottom is aluminum the rest is blued I guess. Can anyone tell me about this magazine.May 18, 2011 ... ... Luger pistol. I know very little about Luger ... Luger collectors live in a special world of fine discrimination with regard to markings, surface ...Your Luger saw action on the western front in Flanders during 1914 and until 30. March 1915. From that date it saw action on the eastern front until the end of the Great War. It was in Litauen, Kurland, Rumania and the Ukraine. It is interesting that the gunsmith of the regiment used the same dies for the unit stamps of all (5) Squadrons.This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both “Buenos Aries” and German markings.29 posts · Joined 2015. #1 · Feb 18, 2015. I have a 1918 and a 1936 Luger and neither one has any markings on the inside of the grip panels. According to The Luger Story there should be proof marks and SNs stamped in the wood.KL Luger issued from the Dachau Concentration Camp guards. The second Luger is one with a "Death Head". The store will not work correctly when cookies are disabled. ... So in other words, the original marking in this case, a date was taken off, and then they engraved, this is not roll-stamp, this is engraved KL1933. A lot of people have ...It is an original 6" navy luger that has had the barrel removed and replaced with a 4" barrel, and the toggle train (or at least the rear toggle) replaced with the standard fixed sight of the P 08. The 0.1059 is a later Ostsee marking- so the pistol must have been assigned there after re-work. the "1059" is the weapon number.These markings were added well after the pistol was produced, yours should not have them- unless it has a similar post war history. 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. GendarmerieAug 19, 2021 ... In this video, we show you two very rare luger variations. The first is a "KL" marked luger that is generally believed to have been issued ...Read, Study, Observe, Absorb. Whatever flavor (s) of the Luger trip your trigger, learn as much as you can about those models, their markings, and the history around that era. Knowledge is power in Luger collecting. The more you know about the Luger models you are pursuing, the more confidence, success and fun you will have in your collecting.Mar 31, 2023 ... In this video, Tom shows us the first Krieghoff Luger ever made! A "G Date" with serial number 01! Want early access to our videos and be ...The metal surfaces bear 85% blue finish. Straw colors are strong. Nitre blue is 80%. The markings are clear and legible. All the serial numbers match. The bore ...ULTRA RARE Swiss LUGER Waffenfabrik Bern W+F 1906/29 SPECIAL ASSEMBLY P-08. Heinzer. 09-22-2023 10:28 PM. by Ron Wood. 7.This is a quote from The Luger Handbook, written by Aarron Davis. EDIT: There was also some 1923 DWM commercial versions with MADE IN GERMANY on them. This model was made for commercial sales both within and outside Germany.... Many experts believe the Dutch variation is actually a military contract model due to its serial …The 9x19mm Parabellum cartridge was developed for the Luger. This model is the Artillery Luger, developed so gunners could defend their batteries from enemy infantry. The barrel is 4 inches longer than the standard Luger and it features long-range sights, an attachable shoulder stock, and the 32-round Trommelmagazin 08.Basically, the toggle and lower parts are all marked 00. The slide matches itself, side plate and slide release are totally M/M. Its completely full of old dried cosmoline inside. Some light surface rust , but most is coming off with some break free. Minor pitting that is not into the metal, just surface mottling.Bronchovascular markings are the visible markings made by blood vessels supplying nutrients to the bronchi and bronchioles in the lungs seen on a chest x-ray or computerized tomogr...Regimental markings command staff. There are 5 types of German unit markings reported in Luger collections that signify command or staff positions. They are listed below and consist of Head Quarters, Army Corps, Division, Regiment, and Bataillon. Lugers with such unit markings are scarce to very rare and the numbers of these Lugers reported ...Nov 15, 2020 · Doubs. 2431 posts · Joined 2003. #7 · Nov 15, 2020. According to Jan Still in his book on Third Reich and Nazi Lugers, your pistol falls within the known range of German Navy Lugers acquired in 1938. Still estimates that 2400 were purchased in the h, i, l & m suffix letter blocks and the Ostsee rack numbers spanned O.2447 ~ O.3654. World War II Nazi 1940-42 Code Mauser Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with 1940 Dated Holster and Two Matching MagazinesThis is a very fine example of an original pre-war 1940 dated, "42 code" Nazi Mauser Luger rig. These Lugers feature a salt blue metal finish with checkered walnut grips. The chamber area is marked with the full date of 1940 with the …The markings inside a ring shank indicate the type of metal, the karat weights or the name of the manufacturer, designer or jeweler. The most common stamp is the karat weight of th...This is a Luger P08 without Nazi markings! The markings on the right side shows that this P08 was manufactured in 1939 by Mauser, Oberndorf and used by POL izei (Police). Eagle over 83 is the marking for the responsable acceptance office for Mauser (WaA83). The eagle in front is the type of the Weimar era and was in use from 1919 - 1939.Re: Luger markings identification - help. Post by von thoma » 07 May 2016, 02:26. I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). 14. German military proof. Found on barrel and breechblock, 1908-1913, and breechblock only, 1914-1918. " The right to believe is the right of those who don't know ".since 1891 Ferlach provisional proof for multi barrel guns. 1892-1918 Prague provisional proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Ferlach black powder proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Prague black powder proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Weipert black powder proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Vienna black powder proof for rifles. 1918-1938 Ferlach black powder proof for rifles.1914 Luger Artillery Markings. Jump to Latest Follow 3K views 16 replies 7 participants last post by Retired Squid Jun 1, 2019. Retired Squid Discussion starter 644 posts · Joined 2015 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · May 30, 2019. I need some help with the markings on the right side of the receiver (I highlighted them in white just so ...The small eagles with numbers are the military inspection markings; the eagle with the swastika is the German Army proof and acceptance stamp. ... I have the same Luger as you with the holster,take down tool & both fxo mags. Would not take less than 2500 for mine. That is the ball park figure you should get. 2300 would be tops with …Edward Tinker. 18052 posts · Joined 2003. #10 · Oct 15, 2009. commercial lugers never have a date on the receiver, so there is a huge amount of them without dates; also between 1922-1935 there were no dates on military guns. However, Ron is correct in the assesment...prairiedogpat. 4027 posts · Joined 2011. #8 · Oct 2, 2021. Yes, by establishing the installation of the sear safety, (Schiwy Safety) it indicates that the pistol was used, at least, until the mid to late 1930's. It would also indicate, at least to me, that this is probably a 1932 marking and the pistol was probably in police use throw the war.4" barrel, 9mm caliber. Last two digits of year of manufacture—41 or 42—stamped over chamber. There is a stock lug and Mauser banner on front toggle link. Extractor and safety both marked. Proofmarks were commercial. Grips are walnut or black plastic. Approximately 2,000 manufactured for sale to Nazi political groups.Apr 2, 2019 · luger 1917 double 1920 artilery start, a star burst above trigger guard with a shild inside, with 23 in it. Mark Evans. Hallock, describes some Imperial Luger pistol used by the Thai Police. These pistols survived WWI and were sold as surplus to the Royal Thai Police somewhere ...This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38 pistol series with examples at hand. I tried to make it as straight forward...
Edward Tinker. 18052 posts · Joined 2003. #10 · Oct 15, 2009. commercial lugers never have a date on the receiver, so there is a huge amount of them without dates; also between 1922-1935 there were no dates on military guns. However, Ron is correct in the assesment.... Shia islamic prayer times
Aug 29, 2017 · These have what looks like a VOPO X cross-out mark on the right grip, while the left grip has Eagle/N proofs, which I think are commercial Mauser proofs. The checkering apears finer than typical Masuer luger grips. They fit a VOPO marked Mauser frame that came with it and some other parts. The frame is serial V series. This is a Weimar period 1920 dated DWM military police Luger that is a 9mm Parabellum re-work of a 1918 artillery frame. This Parabellum has a 100mm barrel length with all matching serial numbers to include matching, original grips. Serial number placement is in the military ("exposed") style The barrel is numbered and proofed and matches the ...Jun 22, 2015 · 9. Date - is mostly obvious - but a 1920 can be a government marking or a date, so showing us helps a lot 10. Here is an unusual spot for a unit marking, this one is police. Be advised that on rare occasions you will find one on the rear strap or the back of the toggle area. Also, Navy guns may be marked on the rear gripstrap Aug 31, 2016 · 1. Receiver hardened, the date was stamped into the receiver top at the same time. 2. Pistol ready for testing, the complete serial number was applied at the same time. 3. The test proof eagle was applied forward of the inspection stamps. This indicated that the pistol had fired two overloaded test cartridges without damage. Apr 20, 2009 · The only distinctive marking of these particular guns was a new date of issue added to the one already marked over the chamber. Consequently, we find the “two-date” model. (For example, a Luger that already had the date “1918” over the chamber now had “1920” above the “1918,” not superimposed upon it. An easier way to initially identify your Luger is to categorize by toggle marking first - then by chamber marking within groups (chronologically for dated chambers). Once you know period of manufacture, simply refer to the appropriate subheading in this section. While some rare variations will be excluded in this generalized overview, it will ...5819 posts · Joined 2010. #2 · May 12, 2016 (Edited) Typical 1921 dated DWM military pistol; I don't think it is re-barreled, but need a better picture of the bottom of the barrel to be sure. For sure the front sight base has been monkeyed with, and not by the mfg. George can read the Reichwehr marking; I can't, but the "/" is peculiar to the ...Over the course of the discussion many interesting and imaginative uses and reasons for Luger witness marks were proposed. However, the "Markings Applied to Pistols 08, …Mark Spencer is a well-known clothing store that has been around for decades. With its wide range of fashionable apparel and accessories, the store has become a go-to destination f...The metal surfaces bear 85% blue finish. Straw colors are strong. Nitre blue is 80%. The markings are clear and legible. All the serial numbers match. The bore ...Mark Lowry is a renowned comedian, singer, and songwriter who has been entertaining audiences for decades. With his unique blend of humor and heartfelt storytelling, Mark has capti...We would like pictures, but you describe a very nice Luger. The white seen in markings on some pistols is not original; it is added by collectors to show up the markings in picures, so the absence of white is perfectly OK. The full serial number (which may be followed by a letter) is on the front of the grip frame above the trigger guard.Luger P08s produced before 1942 will have a safety catch on the left side of the gun, while guns produced after 1942 will have a safety catch on the right side of the gun. Besides, You can also look at the chamber date. Luger P08s were tested and stamped with the date of acceptance, this date is called the chamber date, and it is located on the ....
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